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Cross
Drilling Rotors
This
article will be updated with more information
and photos as time allows.
We
can Drill many makes and models. We have had
numerous requests for bikes other than the Honda
CB's and the answer is yes we can usually cross drill
the rotor you may have.
NOTE:
In the video I state minimum thicknesses for
earlier SOHC CB750. CB750F's of the later years
have thinner rotors. Please just make sure that
your rotor is not thinner that the minimum thickness
stamped or cast into the rotor center.
New
pattern for the CB500 CB550 and CB400 riders.
This
is a 72 hole pattern that I am sure you will
like. Do note that the 72 hole pattern will
not be drilled at sizes larger than 5/16".
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Cross
drilling your rotors. I am doing this article/thread
because there appears to be an overwhelming
interest in this. There maybe a step I goofed
on or omitted so feel free to add if you know
of some other tips and tricks in this. Also
this is going on the assumption that you have
a clean known good rotor that has had the
“glaze” removed form the rotor
surface.
To
drill or Not to drill?
Do
keep in mind there are many reliable sources
on the web that will down talk venting a rotor.
This is because many newer materials for brakes
just do not gas out when heated like they
used to 30-40 years ago. Due to the heat exchange
rate they will down talk venting rotors. If
over some this can crack your rotor.
Hard
facts about rotor drilling
Caution
must be used when venting a rotor. If you
remove too much material you will have a rotor
that will over heat quickly and possibly warp
so care must be taken in this. The best way
to handle this is to use a conservative drilling
pattern. Less is more.
The
more you remove the faster the rotor will
exchange heat. This also means the faster
your rotor will heat up and the faster it
will cool. You have to find a happy medium
in this. Also remember that brake pads are
designed to grab a flat surface, not holes.
Slotting
Brake Pads
One
more brake modification you can do is to slot
the pad with 1 - 1/8 slot cut across the pads
in a uniform way. Slotted pads will also allow
hot gas to exit without too much issue. This
is a trusted methods used in the world of
high performance racing that has been used
for many years.
Slotting is not a service we presently offer.
What
is the big deal with cross-drilling motorcycle
rotors?
Well,,,,,
Looks - Nothing looks more
high performance than a nice set of vented
rotors.
If
done correctly, they will out perform your
O.E. rotors every time.
Stop
better in the rain. This is because the water
shed is much faster than O.E. flat rotors
In
repetitive short braking situations the rotor
will cool much faster.
Good
solid planning is best in this and if possible
use an expendable rotor to use for the first
one you do. Normally we all ready have a pattern
for cross drilling so we just use a transfer
punch for each of the holes according to their
size, but this is how it is done if there is
no pattern.
You
will need to have a heavy duty drill press with
an index-able table (table that you can spin
on center). If you use a small drill press it
will take quite some time to complete this and
will probably beat up your press.
For
Honda rotors we used a upper neck bearing cup
and a rear axle with a tapered head to give
us an acceptable center.
Once
we were sure that we had a reliable center we
drilled and tapped the table so we could use
the 12 mm bolts from the handle bar mounts to
bolt it to the table.
When
we set up a new rotor we use all of these parts
again. Using the cap and axle allows us to get
our center. There is some gap between the bolts
and the rotor holes so finding center each time
is important.
Using
a cam shaft degree wheel we map out the vent
runs. For simplicity we will only cover the
straight vent runs here. Staggered vent runs
are difficult to map and keep accurate, do yourself
a favor and do not try one of these first.
This
is figured on 18 vent runs.
I
map out the first 9 based on the spokes of the
rotor. Using a marker and a straight edge I
draw the lines where the first set of vents
will be orientated.
Now
double check using a caliper to make sure the
spacing will be even all the way around. Now
half your measurement and start making your
second run of vent lines.
Now
that you have all of your lines drawn make a
measurement across the surface of the rotor
from the spokes to the edge. Divide this by
three and make reference marks on one line at
the thirds.
Now
put your marking in the drill chuck and lock
it in place. Put the table back under the drill
chuck and line up the tip to your first reference
mark on the vent line and lock the swing on
the table and make sure the rotate is loose.
Going
around the rotor lower the marker to make your
cross reference marks at every other line. Don’t
just spin the table as this will make you other
reference marks confusing latter. When you are
done you should have a bunch of crosses at you
reference points for the vents. Use this same
technique for the other marks.
There
are literally hundreds of different ways of
mapping out this rotor this way. You could skip
the marker process and chuck up a spring loaded
center punch instead so that each time you bring
the drill head down it makes the center punch
mark saving you a step.
At
this point you can center punch all of your
intended holes. I usually do not but this may
help you with another level of accuracy.
Because
you are dying to: Let’s get drilling….
BEFORE
YOU START DRILLING
1.
You must know the speed of your drill bit. This
is imperative to make sure the bit will last
a reasonable amount of time. Mis match this
and you can kill any drill bit with in seconds.
2.
When drilling your holes do not lean on your
drill press handle. Putting too much pressure
on the
Here we have the lines for all of our vent runs
all drawn out.
I
used 1 rivet at each rotor spoke and the center
of the spoke hole on the opposite side to make
the lines all line up correctly.
Before
you begin drilling know the speed of your drill
bit.
5/16"
is safe to about 300-400 RPM. Later when we
move to the 3/8" or larger bits we will
be moving to a slower drill press. Turning your
drill bit to fast will destroy it very quickly.
Now
we have to lay out the first series of holes.
We are doing a staggered 3-2 pattern
So
our first measurement we will need to know is
total width of the rotor braking surface.
In
this case we are doing a Honda CB500 rotor so
the total distance across is 1.84", so
center of the rotor is about .92". You
can see in the picture that we have made our
center mark on the rotor. Because our table
is index able we will only need the one mark
for reference. Then for the other 2 holes of
the run 1/2 .92" and you get .46"
from either edge of the rotor surface.
Here
is where you will want to make sure your marks
are accurate. Once you start drilling it is
very hard to correct a problem hole.
Here
we have the first series of the holes drilled
at 5/16" in the center of the rotor face.
Remember to drill only one circle of holes at
a time to maintain accuracy and make use of
your drill presses rotating table.
Here
we have the second series of holes done.
Now
we have the whole 3 sequence done.
Now
comes the time to plot out the 2 series holes.
These
must be centered between the spaces of the holes
we just drilled.
You
need to know what you are after before you start
drilling. Do you want them all one size? Or
maybe alternating between 2 sizes. It is always
best to select them a little small when starting
out. You can always drill it bigger for visual
effect and performance later.
I
usually start out with a 5/16 bit. If all my
drill spots are pre-mapped I leave the rotate
table and swing loose clamp loose. This lets
me jump around the surface of the rotor faster
and get it completed faster.
I have done many of these so this just comes
natural.
FOR
THE OTHER HOLES:
At
this point you can use the same pattern as you
did before or you can find center between any
two in the same string of the three hole pattern.
And this will be the location for the 2 hole
part of the pattern.
Here
is the first part is the 2 series holes.
Here
we are will all of the pilot holes finished
in the face of the rotor.
Now
it is time to move to the bigger drill press
to handle the slower speeds needed for drilling
with the larger drill bits.
Now
that we want to go to the 3/8" drill bit
we will move to the slower drill press for better
control and also allowing us yo turn the bit
at a much lower speed. For this next stage we
have the drill press set for 90 RPM.
DUPLICATING
YOUR FIRST ROTOR
To
duplicate a rotor after you have the first one
finished you can carefully clamp the two together
with vice grips and align them carefully. Get
your first two 5/16" holes drilled and
then you can bolt the two together. This trick
will save you allot of time. You may have to
grind off burrs on the first rotor to make sure
they mate together properly.
SLOW
SPEED DRILLING
No,
that's not blood! I use ATF for my cutting oil
in this stage.
Just
like before I work one circle at a time.
Now
we drill out the center holes of the 3 sequence
to 3/8"
Then
move to the 2 sequence and drill all of those
out to 3/8"
After
we have all the holes finished we add one last
touch.
We
chamfer all the holes slightly with a 7/16"
bit.
This
makes the possibility of pulsation next to none.
Plus this last trick will make you pads last
longer.